WOW! You said it best. What a profound and genuine sentiment!
Utopian Reformist
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Evolutionary Path
by msil inas one of the knowledge-seekers who has not had the means or opportunity to do a lot of research i have benefitted greatly from the work of alan, jan and some some others.. i have a question concerning the different "paths" which are followed on the way "out" of the dubs.
how many paths are there?
how does one find the questions to ask - without getting stuck in a direction?.
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Oz, perhaps?
by AGuest infreedom allows all opinions and facts to be uncovered.
letting people air everything helps us understand what the issues truly are.
sure some are more unprofessional than others but a person willing to understand what is going on will not worry about the "ad hominem" attack or swearing.
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Utopian Reformist
I witness this type of behavior every day from current and former JW's! Excellent diagnosis!
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Book of Enoch
by Moxy insomeone mentioned the jude quotation of the non-canonical book of enoch recently and i noticed the latest wt (9/15/01) article on enoch addressed this.
i also found a 98 reference to this which suggested that enoch was actually written after jude, a stance which they seem to have abondoned.
in fact, the whole thing seems like a very typical post-franz, 'we don't know, ok. stop asking us stupid questions' kind of response.
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Utopian Reformist
My sentiments exactly Lindy!
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Goodbye, and Thanks For All the Fish......
by Prisca indear all,.
it is with much regret that i have decided to leave jw.com.
it is not a decision i have made lightly, in fact i had been thinking about it for many weeks now.. i am leaving because i cannot be a part of a forum that condones abuse and deliberate offensiveness towards other posters.
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I remember a few old sayings from the 'Corps:
"nobody ever drowned in sweat"
Perhaps this may be applied in the sense that nothing ventured nothing gained, and everything worthwhile requires hard work and determination, a.k.a survival on this board!
Another saying was: "reach down and grab hold"
Application: Although it appears to apply to males only, it actually means reaching inside to find and grab onto more of what you need to overcome some obstacle. Just do it! - (stolen from NIKE)
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JW's- Have they lost their ability to think?
by Vitameatavegamin ini seriously ask this question in light of some ridiculous experiences i have had in recent times.
a while back,a freind of mine purchased a new home.
a housewarming party was planned for her.
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NYTeleDub:
Since this thread began, you have managed to disappear, leave unanswered questions and avoid factual truth by attemtping to segway into spin-offs of the original discussion and confuse matters with personal dribble.
After several members posted legitimate questions and made inferences concerning the 'double-life" syndrome prone to average witness behavior, you have neither responded intelligently, nor provided additional facts or evidence.
Instead, your casual deviations from the discussions proves our original points. YOU ARE IN FACT A HYPOCRITE disguising yourself as a "normal" dedicated witness.
You cannot reveal your presence here or the information and refuse to attest or deny the facts. Therefore, for the purpose of this particular thread and the issue of hypocrisy, mind-control, lack of free-thinking and leading double-lives, you are guilty on all counts according to the WTBS literature, policies and procedures.
Read your elder's manual. I close this issue satisfied with your defeat, although you cannot be validated as a worthy opponent, since you engaged in a battle of wits completely unarmed! A pyrrhic victory at our expense, but a victory nonetheless!
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JW's- Have they lost their ability to think?
by Vitameatavegamin ini seriously ask this question in light of some ridiculous experiences i have had in recent times.
a while back,a freind of mine purchased a new home.
a housewarming party was planned for her.
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Utopian Reformist
Don't hold your breath waiting for NYTeleDub to respond. His claim of being a free thinker is validation enough for his alter-ego.
All JW's know you cannot associate outside the WTBS, hence the prolific use of 1COR 15:33, even though the main thought is about associating with the doubters of the resurrection.
We can expect some putrid excuse in return.
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JW's- Have they lost their ability to think?
by Vitameatavegamin ini seriously ask this question in light of some ridiculous experiences i have had in recent times.
a while back,a freind of mine purchased a new home.
a housewarming party was planned for her.
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You know and I know that visiting this forum and participating in the debates is definitely contrary to all WTBS theology and practices.
Neither one of us can simply raise our hands at a congregation meeting and offer one of the viewpoints expressed in this forum as an answer to a scripted question from a society publication, can we?
Could you print information from this forum or from one the web-sites and use it in speaking part in the school?
Could you advise a sick one to make their own decision concerning medical treatment, without consequences?
Would anyone, especially elders from your congregation join you and your co-workers for some refreshments and appetizers at the local bistro?
Could you engage in courtship with a female co-worker and publicly present her as such and introduce her to the congregation elders and friends at the next meeting?
You know and I know, and the rest of the forum knows we cannot do any of these things without losing it all. I am forced to wait until everyone I love catches up, it is the price I pay for fanaticism and therefore my prison sentence continues along just as yours does!
We are psychological cellmates imprisoned in the "Stockholm Syndrome" of the WTBS. Ask Kent for the explanation.
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JW's- Have they lost their ability to think?
by Vitameatavegamin ini seriously ask this question in light of some ridiculous experiences i have had in recent times.
a while back,a freind of mine purchased a new home.
a housewarming party was planned for her.
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Funny. At one time, ten years ago, I would have considered it the greatest of privileges to handle microphones, literature and read announcements. I am so glad I am a doubting thomas by nature.
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JW's- Have they lost their ability to think?
by Vitameatavegamin ini seriously ask this question in light of some ridiculous experiences i have had in recent times.
a while back,a freind of mine purchased a new home.
a housewarming party was planned for her.
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Utopian Reformist
WOW! I don't think we will receive the courtesy of a replpy to that question.
Nice job! They should put that stuff in cans and market it so hypocrites can be sprayed like pests!
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JW's- Have they lost their ability to think?
by Vitameatavegamin ini seriously ask this question in light of some ridiculous experiences i have had in recent times.
a while back,a freind of mine purchased a new home.
a housewarming party was planned for her.
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Notice that NYTELECOM1 has not responded. Perhaps he will return later or he has departed. I believe a defense would have been futile, pyrrhic at best.